A Science Journalist Tries to Hack Heartbreak
Science writer Florence Williams felt blindsided when her twenty-five-year marriage unexpectedly fell apart. The heartbreak opened her up to a whole range of new and intense feelings, but it also…
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Named by Apple as the Best Show of the Year 2021, host Dr. Maya Shankar blends compassionate storytelling with the science of human behavior to help us understand who we are, and who we become, in the face of a big change.
You’ll hear extraordinary stories of change from celebrities like Tiffany Haddish, Kacey Musgraves, and Riz Ahmed, as well as real-life inspirations like Christine Ha, who became permanently blind in her early twenties and went on to win the reality TV show Master Chef; Richard Harris, the Australian doctor who rescued a boys’ soccer team trapped deep inside of a cave in Thailand; and Euna Lee, the Korean-American journalist who was held captive in North Korea for 140 days. The show also features science experts, like Adam Grant, Angela Duckworth, and Katy Milkman, who share strategies for how we can live happier and more fulfilling lives.
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A Science Journalist Tries to Hack Heartbreak
Science writer Florence Williams felt blindsided when her twenty-five-year marriage unexpectedly fell apart. The heartbreak opened her up to a whole range of new and intense feelings, but it also…
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Influence is often seen as a skill we have to cultivate, a charismatic quality leveraged by select leaders, business people, and successful social media accounts. But in her new book,…
Hasan Minhaj is Trying Not to Care If You Like Him
Lately, comedian Hasan Minhaj is taking a second look at his motives for performing. Hasan was initially drawn to comedy because it allowed him to hold people in power accountable.…
The Upside of Stress
We’re all familiar with the ways that stress can make us feel bad. But professor and stress expert Modupe Akinola argues that a simple change in our mindset can turn…
“I Survived the Unsurvivable”
At age nine, Javier Zamora embarked on a harrowing, 3000-mile immigration journey from El Salvador to the United States. More than twenty years later, he’s finally ready to revisit that…
The Science of Loneliness
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When Surviving Is Enough
After Nora McInerny’s husband died of cancer in his thirties, Nora became well known for writing about the messiness of grief. She also led grief groups, launched a podcast about…
Our Revisionist (Personal) Histories ft. Jason Isbell
Jason Isbell is a singer-songwriter and four-time Grammy winner. After wrestling with addiction, he re-examines aspects of his personality that he once saw as his greatest weaknesses. For a transcript…
The Art and Science of Gathering
Priya Parker is an expert in group dialogue and conflict resolution, and she uses her unique background to rethink how we come together. Priya teaches us how to turn our…
A First Responder’s Call for Help
As a firefighter, Christy Warren made rescuing people her life's work. Her toughness earned her praise from her peers. But after decades of rescuing others, suddenly Christy became the one…
The Science of Regret
Author Daniel Pink teaches us how to transform our relationship with regret so that we can live happier, more fulfilling lives.
A 6-Year-Old Changes History
Civil rights icon Ruby Bridges is our guest today. She shares what it was like to be the first African-American student to attend an all-white elementary school in Louisiana in…
A Theranos Whistleblower
Erika Cheung’s first job out of college was as a scientist at the now infamous biotech company, Theranos. Erika realized early on that the company’s proprietary technology was not delivering…
The Science of Motivation
Dr. Ayelet Fishbach is a professor of psychology, and an expert on the science of motivation. She'll teach us how to set smarter goals, and give us science-based strategies to…
A Holocaust Survivor’s Story
Edith Eger was just 16 years old when the Nazis forced her and her Jewish family onto a cattle car to the Auschwitz concentration camp. Today, Edith is 94 years…
Who Is Scott Menke?
Scott Menke never thought he had a particularly compelling personality, but he did feel he stood out in at least one way: he had a natural ability to learn and…
The Science of Our Inner Voice
Psychology professor Ethan Kross is an expert on the science of introspection, and the role our inner voice plays in shaping our sense of well-being. While our inner voice has…
A Test of Faith
Kate Bowler is a religious scholar whose entire belief system was thrown into question when she was diagnosed with Stage IV cancer at age 35. For a transcript of this…
I Don’t Feel Like a Boy, I Am a Boy
Jodie Patterson’s son came out as transgender when he was just shy of three years old. Jodie knew her son would face many changes ahead, but what she didn’t anticipate…
The Thai Cave Rescue
Dr. Richard "Harry" Harris is an anesthesiologist and expert cave diver who was tasked with a seemingly impossible mission: to rescue a boys' soccer team trapped 2.5 miles deep within…
Lessons From a Grief Therapist
Julia Samuel is one of the world’s leading grief therapists. She joins Maya to talk about why it’s important to engage with our grief, and offers strategies for how to…
Losing Dixie
Quinn Lewis’ sister Dixie was 19 years old when she tragically died in a car accident. In the months that followed Dixie’s death, Quinn was left to grieve the loss…
The Science of Connection
Dr. Dixon Chibanda, a psychiatrist in Zimbabwe, has been on a mission for years to help people gain access to mental healthcare in his community, where there’s only one psychiatrist…
Captured in North Korea
Korean-American journalist Euna Lee was captured by North Korean soldiers in 2009, and forced into captivity for 140 days. While Euna’s time in North Korea was harrowing, there was one…
How Psychedelics Can Change Our Minds
Author Michael Pollan chats with Maya about the science of psychedelics — what’s going on in our brains that give rise to the extraordinary experiences people describe. Michael also gives…
Life On the Other Side of Treatment
When we first talked to Scott (“The Life-Changing Diagnosis”), he was in the midst of treatment for stage four bone cancer at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Texas. Since then,…
A Blind Cook Becomes a Master Chef
Christine Ha fell in love with cooking in college when she tried to recreate the Vietnamese dishes her mother had cooked for her as a child. But when a rare…
A Mother’s Fight for the Truth
Shapearl Wells’ son Courtney Copeland was fatally shot in 2016. He was 22 years old. Shapearl wanted answers to what had happened to her son in his final moments, but…
Face to Face with the Enemy
In an effort to bring an end to violence in northern Uganda in 1993, Betty Bigombe decides to engage directly with the notorious warlord, Joseph Kony. Today we hear about…
Amanda Knox Wants Us to Move On
Amanda Knox was just 20 years old when she was found guilty of a crime she did not commit — the murder of her roommate. Amanda spent four years in…
The Science of Grit
What makes a ballerina, a world-class chef, or a civic activist great? Psychologist Angela Duckworth says the answer is GRIT — a power combo of passion and perseverance. Angela teaches…
BONUS: Olympian Gabby Thomas Sets Her Own Pace
Gabby Thomas became the second-fastest woman ever when she ran the 200m in 21.61 seconds at the 2021 US Olympic Team Trials. She then won two medals at the Tokyo…
Wired for Change
John Elder Robison is a gifted sound engineer whose rare ability to understand machines propelled him to work with the likes of Kiss and Diana Ross. But the one thing…
The Science of Quitting
Annie Duke believes we should be quitting things more often, a skill she honed during her lucrative years as a professional poker player on the world stage. Annie talks about…
Riz Ahmed Plays Himself
Oscar-Nominated actor Riz Ahmed shares how the roles he’s played have changed not only how he sees the world, but also how he sees himself.For a transcript of this episode,…
Maya’s Slight Change of Plans
Host Maya Shankar recently experienced a heartbreaking change in her personal life. Two days after it happened, she felt the need to process it out loud, like so many of…
Opening Pandora’s Box
Susan Messing and Michael McCarthy were a beloved couple in the Chicago comedy scene. Michael passed away from cancer in 2020. As part of Susan’s grieving process, she began to…
BONUS: The Science of Happiness and Change
New episodes of A Slight Change of Plans coming every Monday starting October 11th!Maya joins Dr. Laurie Santos (host of The Happiness Lab) to talk about how we can reframe…
Kacey Musgraves on Psychedelics
Singer-songwriter Kacey Musgraves has never been willing to change herself or her music for anyone else. But a recent psychedelic trip allowed her to change on her own terms and…
Getting My Silence Back
When Ramsey Khabbaz was 20 years old, he woke up to the sound of a blaring fire alarm. It took him a moment to realize that the sound was originating…
I’m Not as Free as I Thought
Morgan Givens was initially filled with joy when he came out as transgender and began hormone therapy. But his joy was soon pierced when he confronted the reality of being…
The Life-Changing Diagnosis
Scott, a young researcher who builds cancer detection tools, has spent his entire adult life trying to avoid getting cancer. He is now facing his own stage 4 diagnosis.
I Lost Weight and So Much More
From the time she was a little girl, Elna Baker had dreamed of being thin. And she did become thin. She lost close to 100 pounds in five months. For…
Adam Grant Thinks Again
Psychologist and author Adam Grant talks with Maya about the science of changing peoples’ minds, including our own. Adam also takes some of his own advice and rethinks some of…
Leaving a Religious Cult
Megan Phelps-Roper was born into the Westboro Baptist Church, a religious cult called the most rabid hate groups in America. Megan was a true believer and one of the Church’s…
Tommy Caldwell Finds Clarity
Tommy Caldwell’s near-death experience unlocks a completely new state of mind that propels him to become the greatest big wall climber of all time.
The Science of Change
Maya chats with her friend and fellow cognitive scientist Dr. Katy Milkman about science-based strategies to help you inspire change in your own life.
Hillary Clinton Changes on Her Own Terms
People have been asking Hillary to change ever since the 1970s, when she defied the stereotype of First Lady of Arkansas. And she was willing to change...just never in the…
Tiffany Haddish Discovers Her Superpower
After her mom’s car accident throws Tiffany Haddish’s childhood into chaos, a social worker gives her an ultimatum that changes her life.
A Black Musician Takes on the KKK
When a Black jazz musician meets a Klansman at a bar, his life takes a sudden turn. He ends up inspiring hundreds of people to leave white supremacist groups.
Preview: Maya Asks Michael Lewis to Be Her Friend
A sneak peak of what’s to come this season on A Slight Change of Plans with Dr. Maya Shankar, in conversation with her good friend and fellow podcast host Michael…
Introducing A Slight Change of Plans
Dr. Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist who studies how our minds work and how we change. There are few things in life that are as complex and messy—and potentially…
The Host
Dr. Maya Shankar
Maya Shankar is a cognitive scientist who served as a Senior Advisor in the Obama White House, where she founded and served as Chair of the White House Behavioral Science…
