Michael Lewis, host of the podcast Against the Rules, has published many New York Times bestselling books, including The Fifth Risk, Flash Boys, and The Big Short. Movie versions of…
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It’s all over. Sam Bankman-Fried was found guilty on all seven counts. But what now? Michael Lewis, Lidia Jean Kott, and Judging Sam’s legal expert, O’Melveny defense attorney Rebecca Mermelstein, reflect on the outcome and look ahead to sentencing, SBF’s other legal troubles, and the fate of the cooperating witnesses. This conversation was recorded on November 7.