Dr. Ibram X. Kendi is the host of Be Antiracist. He is the Andrew W. Mellon Professor in the Humanities at Boston University and the founding director of the BU…
Abolitionist Mariame Kaba is the founder of Project NIA and the author of the New York Times bestseller, We Do This ‘Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice.
Kaba and Dr. Kendi have a profound discussion on why mass surveillance, police, punishment, and incarceration will never create a safe society—and what will.
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FURTHER READING + RESOURCES
- We Do This ‘Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice by Mariame Kaba
- Are Prisons Obsolete by Angela Y. Davis
- The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander
- Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison by Michel Foucault
- The End of Policing by Alex Vitale
- The First Civil Right: How Liberals Built Prison America by Naomi Murakawa
- Ear Hustle Podcast
- Golden Gulag: Prisons, Surplus, Crisis, and Opposition in Globalizing California by Ruth Wilson Gilmore
- How to Share Space: Creating Community in Classrooms and Beyond
- PIC 101 Curriculum
ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT
- Project NIA
- Noname Book Club
- Chicago Freedom School
- No New Jails NYC
- Incarcerated Workers Organizing Committee
- Critical Resistance
- NYC Books Through Bars