Big Lives Muhammad Ali: Boxing, Fame and The Trap

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What happens when a black icon refuses to make white audiences comfortable? This episode traces Muhammad Ali’s BBC interviews—full of swagger and wit, fury and fallout—to reveal how he reshaped media, protest and public speech. Along the way: Vietnam, the Nation of Islam, Joe Frazier, and a blueprint every outspoken Black celebrity still wrestles with today.

Additional archive: When We Were Kings, PolyGram Film Productions, 1996

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Emmanuel Dzotsi

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