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For close to three decades, Ben Kweller’s been crafting deeply personal indie rock that’s both intimate and expansive. From his early days fronting the band Radish as a teenager in the ’90s to his acclaimed solo career that began in the early 2000s, he’s consistently delivered songs that feel raw, honest and almost conversational. But his latest album, Cover the Mirrors, finds Ben in a different place entirely. It’s an unflinching examination of grief, healing, and the complicated process of moving forward after unimaginable loss.

In today’s episode we’ll talk with Ben about the death of his teenage son, Dorian. How Ben and his family embraced grief and managed to not retreat from their lives and work. And what it means to return to making and releasing music.

You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Ben Kweller songs HERE.


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