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Brandi Carlile came by Shangri La last year to talk to Rick Rubin with Tanya Tucker about the album they made together, “While I’m Livin’.” After Tanya left, Brandi stayed behind to talk about her love of Joni Mitchell’s music, how she was present for a star-studded jam that led to Joni singing for the first time since her stroke, and also about the beginning of her career, when Rick helped to discover her. Plus, Brandi plays an intimate version of her song “The Mother” for Rick.

The Hosts

Rick Rubin

In addition to being a podcast host, Frederick Jay “Rick” Rubin is an American record producer and former co-president of Columbia Records. Along with Russell Simmons, he is the co-founder…

Malcolm Gladwell

Malcolm Gladwell is president and co-founder of Pushkin Industries. He is a journalist, a speaker, and the author of six New York Times bestsellers including The Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers,…

Justin Richmond

Justin Richmond is producer and co-host of the music podcast Broken Record with writer Malcolm Gladwell, New York Times editor Bruce Headlam, and music producer—and Def Jam co-founder—Rick Rubin. Justin…

Bruce Headlam

Bruce Headlam is one of the co-creators of the music podcast Broken Record. He worked at The New York Times for 19 years, including two years running the 50-person Video…