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In this episode, Eric talks with John Legend about why, at the height of his career, John started taking voice lessons, and how important it has been to learn how to maintain his voice for the long haul. They also chat about how working with Eric has influenced John’s own coaching on The Voice, his writing process, and how he creates songs. John even demonstrates how his favorite falsetto singers sound, from Curtis Mayfield to Prince, and why each one is unique.

The Hosts

Rick Rubin

In addition to being a podcast host, Frederick Jay “Rick” Rubin is an American record producer and former co-president of Columbia Records. Along with Russell Simmons, he is the co-founder…

Malcolm Gladwell

Malcolm Gladwell is president and co-founder of Pushkin Industries. He is a journalist, a speaker, and the author of six New York Times bestsellers including The Tipping Point, Blink, Outliers,…

Justin Richmond

Justin Richmond is producer and co-host of the music podcast Broken Record with writer Malcolm Gladwell, New York Times editor Bruce Headlam, and music producer—and Def Jam co-founder—Rick Rubin. Justin…

Bruce Headlam

Bruce Headlam is one of the co-creators of the music podcast Broken Record. He worked at The New York Times for 19 years, including two years running the 50-person Video…