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Feeling you belong to a group can be great – but it also has a darker side, leading us down an unhappy path of hatred and violence towards people with different identities and backgrounds.

Dr. Laurie Santos talks to Mina Cikara – whose homeland descended into a bloody civil war – and Jamil Zaki about how we can fight hatred with empathy, kindness and difficult conversations.

(Deep canvassing clips courtesy of The Leadership Lab at the Los Angeles LGBT Center.)

To learn more. . .

Mina Cikara website

Mina Cikara’s TED Talk

Jamil Zaki website

Jamil Zaki’s book

Josh Kalla website

The Host

Dr. Laurie Santos

Dr. Laurie Santos is Professor of Psychology and Head of Silliman College at Yale University. Professor and podcast host Dr. Laurie Santos is an expert on human cognition and the…