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Glory talks to author Deesha Philyaw about her National Book Award finalist debut collection, The Secret Lives of Church Ladies. In this episode, they explore Black women’s complex relationship with the church, how Deesha crafts her bold characters, and why writers — especially writers of color — should not play small.

The Host

Glory Edim

Glory Edim is the founder of Well-Read Black Girl – a Brooklyn-based book club and online community that celebrates the uniqueness of Black literature and sisterhood. In fall 2017, she…