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Everybody’s worried about the risks of AI. So we called up one of the most insightful writers we know on the subject: Zvi Mowshowitz. Zvi writes about AI and AI risks at his substack, Don’t Worry About the Vase. Zvi’s problem is this: How do we prevent artificial intelligence from killing everyone? 

In this episode, Zvi explains: 

  • Why it’s often useful to anthropomorphize AI 
  • What this summer’s Hugging Face attack tells us about the nature of AI
  •  What increasing AI capability means for cybersecurity risk
  •  Whether and when we should pause AI development
  • Why powerful pen-weight models may remove the last reliable points of control

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Jacob Goldstein

Jacob Goldstein spent more than a decade as co-host of the Planet Money podcast. He's also the author of the book Money: The True Story of a Made-Up Thing, which the New…